our guest is with bell point alternatives and on the fundamental side of the story stephen weiss is with short hills capital. good to see you. jeff, make the case. you're looking at the charts. how do you like ups versus fedex? >> maria, i think you have to look at the longer-term chart, and if you look at the ten-year period, the true leader is federal express. it's up 76% versus the 24% that ups is. that's where you find the leaders. now let's take a closer look and look at the micro view of this chart, and we go to the year to date chart, and if you see a year to date, trading within a range, between 84 and 94, and what's going tonight difference. what's going tonight difference to push this to go higher, the catalyst, right. we wanted to see it go above $94 a share and the catalyst is going tonight international markets. we've seen some clarity over there, and you've seen a really -- fedex's international numbers have to increase, and that's the catalyst right there. >> jeff, they are both international. it depends on where you want to play. i like ups better because it's got a 3% yi